Homoseksualitas dalam Islam

safir

serem2 komen di link yg @ron89 kasih,ckckckck

Adamx

Hukumnya sudah jelas. Tinggal pilih ajak kok ikuti apa langgar. Kalo dilanggar, mbok ya jangan cari pembenaran. Tanya hati nurani aja (saat hati & pikiran jernih) sesederhana itu.

safir

msh bingung dgn yg dimaksud evolving syariah..

dioradio

Islam (Agama) dan Homoksualitas ibarat Kucing yang mengejar Ekornya sendiri. Gak akan berhenti mengejar, meski harus berputar-putar. Ekornya gak dapet, yang ada malah kepusingan/ keblinger.

Pemandangan yang menggelitik, walau kadang capek dan bosan juga melihatnya. Kadang gue berpikir, kok si kucing gak capek ya dengan aktivitas/permainan "kejar-ekor" itu? Sesekali berhenti, besoknya ngejar-ngejar lagi. Rasanya sulit sekali berdamai dengan ekornya sendiri.

Ingin menelisik ke pemikiran si kucing, kenapa dia sampe ngejar-ngejar ekornya? Apakah dia melihat ekornya itu bukan bagian dari tubuhnya sendiri? apakah ia melihatnya sebagai mangsa? gangguan? ancaman? yang harus ia tangkap?

Ketika gua coba menawarkan alternatif permainan dan makanan untuk mengalihkan, kucing itu pun teralihkan dan berhenti mengejar ekornya. Tapi permainan dan makanan itu tidak benar-benar membuat ia berhenti total, karena besoknya ia masih mengejar ekornya. Akhirnya gua bosan dan meninggalkan si kucing yang masih saja sibuk dengan ekornya. Gua kemudian berpikir, there must be something wrong with its mind.

Harapan gue, si kucing ini mau menerima ekor itu sebagai bagian dari tubuhnya sendiri yang gak harus dia kejar dan sakiti. Tapi dengar-dengar, apa yang dilakukan si kucing itu adalah perintah dari penciptaNya. Dia akan diganjar hukuman berat kalau tidak mengejar ekornya, minimal dia harus menganggap ekornya sendiri sebagai sebuah ancaman. Dia ada dalam sebuah kendali.

Yang gue tahu dan yakini, ekor itu bukan ancaman ataupun sesuatu yang dapat mencelakakan si kucing. Bukan ular yang akan melilit, membunuh dan memakannya. Bukan pula rudal yang sedang menyasar dan akan menghancurkan dirinya sendiri. Sekarang gua cuma bisa nyengir miris liat Kucing itu.

Konon, kucing itu sampai mengerahkan teman-temannya sesama kucing, untuk menangkap dan menghabisi ekor mereka sendiri. Mereka menggigitnya sampai putus dan berdarah-darah. Yang gua sulit pahami, kucing-kucing itu tidak merasa kesakitan dan bersalah setelahnya. Ada juga sekumpulan kucing-kucing yang sangat meyakini ekornya itu sebuah ancaman / kesalahan, tapi tidak mengejarnya.

Gua kehabisan akal untuk mengubah cara pandang kucing-kucing itu, karena mereka sangat-sangat meyakini ekor mereka itu sebuah kesalahan. Hanya karena di zaman dahulu, ada sekumpulan kucing yang mengembangkan pemahaman seperti ini. Pemahaman yang kemudian diwariskan turun-temurun, diyakini dan disepakati bersama.


*pukpuk kucing*

algonzo

artikel menarik dari magdalene.co
http://www.magdalene.co/news-82-muslim-and-gay-–-10-facts-you-may-not-know-about-us.html

Muslim and Gay: 10 Facts You May Not Know About Us
by downtown boy

On a recent Sex and The City-inspired dinner, one of my dear girlfriends gleefully scooped a handful of warm and toasted pork grind to go with her taco bite as if they were her last meal on earth.

Washing it down with refreshing lime iced tea, my friend, an agnostic who was brought up a Muslim, turned to me and expressed her disbelief at my insistence to abstain from pork.

“Since you’re having sex with men, you might as well eat pork,” she said only half-jokingly. She reminded me of my Mother who used to scold me for skipping karate class (in my defense, I was the only boy left in yellow belt).

She then expounded on a mock theory about the different levels of sins and hell according to Islam – with homosexuality being up there, a little lower than murder – as if life was a game on tablet, the players vying for the highest score to take them to heaven or hell before the “Game-Over” sign flashes on.

As much as I was annoyed by her casual observation, she did have a point. When you live in a world where spending a little time in a sauna can lead to a string of non-halal sex, why insist on going halal at the dinner table?

Still, it can be wearying to have to constantly defend my religious practice, even among the close friends who have accepted my sexuality. It’s as if I have to justify every single religious observance.

So I’ve decided to share some awkward insights here that might help readers understand how some of us gay Muslims live our lives. I’m not sure whether I can speak for the majority, but hopefully my friend will now stop offering bacon to me.

Yes, it’s oxymoronic; stop reminding us!

“You can’t be gay and Muslim at the same time.” I’ve heard that a lot and I never pretend that the two concepts can happily bond like hair and gel on a good hair day. But the majority of us are not religious scholars or historians on a crusade to interpret the Holy Book. To me it’s pretty clear that the Holy Quran says homosexuality is not permissible. Nonetheless, I just want to live my life practicing the teachings – feeble, though, the attempts may be – while accepting who I am.

It’s so conflicted – there’s no space for logic. And why should there be?

Being gay and a practicing Muslim means I have to constantly justify my conflicting actions. There are days when I just smile and make some mental notes about the bees and the birds, and then there are days when I consciously engage in fierce but meaningless debates. As contradictive as it sounds, I have come to a conclusion that in order to accept who I am – a happy, half-baked Queen – I cannot live my life forgoing my deep-rooted Islamic values completely. Moreover I have repeatedly found applying logics to conflicting actions making up bad analogies on incomparable actions (you get the idea).

We just want to make peace with ourselves.

The truth is my apparent conflicting actions are my way of self-reconciliation. I’m trying to integrate religious values with my sexuality, because rejecting one for the other is like rejecting a large part of me. I have a need to love and be loved by other men, and I have a need to fulfill my spiritual beliefs. Both needs form the very part of me. I know that’s a fine line to walk but personally I don’t see anything wrong with it, because religious values tend to be conflicting anyways.

Admittedly, we pick and choose our ‘sin’.

As a Muslim, I believe in the concept of heaven and hell. You do good deeds in this world and you rack up points for heaven. You commit ‘sinful deeds’ and you lose out some mileage and may end up on a budget airline to hell, so to speak. Having said that, don’t question me if I don’t eat pork, or when I fast in the Ramadan month or pray every now and then. I’ve got a lot of points to catch up.

It’s not hypocrisy; I never try to change anyone.

Does it make me a hypocrite if I practice a large part of the teachings while accepting my sexuality? I don’t go around preaching at random times what’s good and bad for you. I would be a hypocrite if I tried to instill Halal values to others at the dinner table, and told my Muslim friends they’d go to hell if they ate that pork.

But, yes, some of us can be Real Jerks and Hypocrites...

Like other semi-closeted gay men in Indonesia, I have mastered the art of living under different masks without sacrificing our identities. That’s our way to survive in this double standard and largely homophobic society. My semi-closeted life has led me to encounter some gay Muslims who end up becoming the most homophobic characters just for the sake of appearing straight. I once dated a guy who prayed five times a day and made hateful comments about gays in public (he was a radio personality, and has since moved on to TV. I’m too nice to name names).

… and self-delusional…

I’m referring to those who choose to live completely closeted lives and settle down in a non-mutually consensual heterosexual marriage (to women who have no ideas their husbands are gay). This applies to all closeted married homosexual men in Indonesia, irrespective of their religions and beliefs. On online gay dating site, these are usually men who start their private messages to other men with the greeting Assalamualaikum (May Peace Be upon You).

… while waving the religious flags.

And it doesn’t stop there. Come Friday and my Blackberry Messenger’s feed is peppered with calls for the Friday prayer from my contacts, many of them closeted gays. As if the world really needs the weekly prayer reminders by men whose Friday ritual involves uploading selfies of their vain self in Muslim tunic with matching skull cap.

Then there are those who hide behind a secular mask.

When I was living abroad, I used to tell my non-Muslim friends that I was allergic to alcohol, rather than telling them the real reason I was a teetotaler. The few people who knew that I was an observant Muslim looked perplexed, “But you’re gay, aren’t you!?” I don’t get this reaction often anymore, but I’m sure there are those who still choose to hide their beliefs for fear of being socially scrutinized.

Still, the guilt stays.

And here’s where I get philosophical: No matter how much we try to brush it off, most of us will always live with guilt. It’s like we divide our actions into two different boxes: the pink box in the far right corner, and the green box sitting quietly in the opposite corner. The gulf of separation doesn’t do much to uproot the guilt, despite the number of prayers we perform and those hundreds of days we’ve spent fasting.

The truth is everyone goes through an endless process of self-acceptance. Mine happens to involve two very opposing worlds that clash. I’m just trying to make the collision less violent and devastating for my own sanity.

I’m no straight talker (sorry, couldn’t resist) and I treasure my pork-chomping, ex-Muslim friend dearly, therefore I couldn’t find the fitting words to verbally express my irritation at her passing judgment.

But the next time we dine at that taco joint, here’s what I’ll tell her: "You eat the pork, sweetie, I’ll have the dessert." Probably while gleefully staring at the cute waiter as if he were my last meal on earth.

dioradio

@dr_gonzo "the guilt stays" indicates that he's still in doubt about his life. He hasn't yet chosen which side he will be in. That double life he leads, makes people think that he's Labil.
Atau dalam kasus lainnya, dia seperti meyakini separuh prinsip-prinsip yang ada di agamanya. Itu bikin dia rentan untuk dituduh penganut paham Islam Liberal. As i once told you, daripada mengganggu/merusak/memodifikasi keyakinan tertentu yang sudah terbentuk/ada (yang mana dapat memicu konflik sosial), lebih baik keluar dari lingkaran itu dan bikin lingkaran sendiri, hehe. That's why gua sejak awal udah bilang ke keluarga gua, bahwa gua gak mau berdebat atau bertikai dengan mereka karena gua dan mereka gak lagi berada di arena yang sama. Itu jauh lebih baik daripada gua menyatakan diri menganut keyakinan yang sama dengan mereka, tapi dengan versi yang lebih liberal.

CoffeePrince

Bingung dengan ajaran agama Islam. Homo ga boleh, poligami dan menikahi anak di bwah umur boleh

rendifebrian

Just side ponytail, kalo ngebahas soal Homo dan Agama nggak bakalan ada habisnya. Setiap orang bakalan kekeh pengen pegang argumennya masing-masing.

rigil

homo dalam islam jelas dilarang lah,,

udah jelas lah. . .


tapi gk salah juga kan kita homo, , gak pengen juga.

tiba2 aja, jeder ! udah ngrasain hidup tau2 besar gini suka cewek juga suka cowok.

gak pengen ya, bukan sengaja.

sinjai

@dr_gonzo that's so awesome opinion. Aku setuju banget, aku cuma bisa melakukan sebagian bukan berarti harus meninggalkan semua nya. though, guilty n self-conflicting still remain.

where spending a little time in a sauna can lead to a string of non-halal sex, why insist on going halal at the dinner table?

Kalo soal sex, so dichotomous, take it or leave it. Kalo soal makanan kita masih punya pilihan yg banyak. Untuk beberapa orang saya percaya mereka tidak berdaya dan terpaksa "take". Tidak se luwes seperti ketika memilih makanan. (walaupun kadang ada kondisi dimana harus terpaksa makan makanan non halal) jadi dalam seks nyaris tidak punya banyak pilihan dan lebih lebih itu kebutuhan yg sangat dasar.

Nonetheless, I just want to live my life practicing the teachings – feeble, though, the attempts may be – while accepting who I am.

Accepting who I am, n accepting body else. Sering kali lupa bahwa kita perlu memahami orang lain yg tidak memiliki kondisi yg sama. Misal, ada yg "it's okay with anal sex" kemudian secara tidak langsung memprovokasi mereka yg pacaran yg cuma berani frottage, or kissing untuk melakukan hal yg sama. Remember, bahwa semua orang punya "batas" nya sendiri sendiri.

As contradictive as it sounds, I have come to a conclusion that in order to accept who I am – a happy, half-baked Queen – I cannot live my life forgoing my deep-rooted Islamic values completely

Kebanyakan gay seperti ini apalagi di masyarakat indo yg homophobik, walau ada beberapa orang yg secara radikal baru bisa menerima diri nya ketika meninggalkan keyakinan nya. it's okay, setiap orang punya cara cara nya sendiri, dan itu tidak bisa di paksakan pada orang lain. Dan orang orang yg tidak mengambil langkah radikal ini, mereka percaya jika mereka harus meninggalkan keyakinan mereka untuk menerima diri mereka sendiri, akan ada konflik yg lebih besar.

I’m trying to integrate religious values with my sexuality, because rejecting one for the other is like rejecting a large part of me

Ku harap seseorang tidak langsung judge "hypocrite", "muna", "sok" dsb. jika melihat gay STMJ (Sholat terus maksiat jalan), biarkan mereka dan kita menjalankan agama semampunya. Then let God judges.

The truth is everyone goes through an endless process of self-acceptance. Mine happens to involve two very opposing worlds that clash. I’m just trying to make the collision less violent and devastating for my own sanity.

Proses yg panjang dan melelahkan pasti nya penerimaan orientasi seksual dengan keyakinan. Don't give up, lebih baik tetap dalam lingkaran islam walaupun masih berbuat dosa sana sini, dan meninggalkan banyak kewajiban. Anggap, lebih baik memiliki lilin kecil yg walau cahaya nya kecil di tengah kegelapan yg pekat, dari pada tidak memiliki sama sekali. Mungkin aku kelihatan sangat permisif, dan yah kadang perlu. Dari pada saya melihat saudara gay muslim menukar keyakinan mereka.

sinjai

CoffeePrince wrote: »

Bingung dengan ajaran agama Islam. Homo ga boleh, poligami dan menikahi anak di bwah umur boleh

Hanya karena ada satu kelompok Ato orang yg interpretasi terhadap suatu ajaran agama seperti itu, tidak lantas pukul rata bahwa semua interpretasi agama juga semua sama. Banyak juga kelompok yg yg tidak setuju dengan poligami dalam islam.

dioradio

@sinjai tapi kan poligami dibolehinnya sama islam itu sendiri, terlepas setuju/gak setujunya pandangan beberapa pemeluknya. Begitupun homoseksualitas, mau dibilang "ada kok beberapa kelompok yang setuju dengan homoseks", tetep aja islam melarangnya.

dioradio

rigil wrote: »

tapi gk salah juga kan kita homo, , tau2 besar gini suka cewek juga suka cowok.

Ente sebetulnya biseks atau homo sih gil? hehehe

sinjai

Tidak ada interpretasi tunggal dalam agama. Dan tidak lantas satu interpretasi menjadi stereotip untuk menilai agama islam secara keseluruhan.

Begitupun homoseksualitas, mau dibilang "ada kok beberapa kelompok yang setuju dengan homoseks",tetep aja islam melarang

Beberapa kelompok yg setuju dengan homoseks itu juga tetep islam kok. Tidak lantas perbedaan dengan islam mayoritas soal homoseksual, membuat kelompok yg berbeda itu keluar dari agama islam. Jadi perbedaan pendapat dengan kelompok mayoritas tidak lantas membuat seseorang dianggap "keluar". (kecuali dalam ushuliyah/pokok). Satu interpretasi dalam agama jangan jadi stereotip dalam menilai agama secara keseluruhan. @dioradio

Visca_Doni

hadehhhh... jadi bingung